John Alan Potts

Marilyn, my dear old friend, my heart is just aching for you and all your family, most of all John, Lisa and Linda. We have been through so much together over the years - I can remember practically every milestone in Alan's life - from you bringing him home fromt he hospital. I know he is in the loving arms of Almighty God and at peace. I hope that will comfort you, even though sometimes nothing does. I love you with all my heart and I'm so sorry. My thoughts and prayers will be with you every day. Love, Jackie

Alan was always one to make the whole room smile and have a good time. I see him now, doing the same with the angels. He will be missed and always remembered. My thoughts and prayers are with the family and I only hope that something good will come of this tragedy. RIP Alan.

Alan was one of the most amazing people i have ever met. He was always always willing to listen to you and help in any and every way that he could. He was a true friend and went out of his way to make others happy. He had a tremendous impact on my life and i will never forget him. My thoughts and prayers are with his family. He was a loyal friend, and a devoted father. He talked about his children constantly, about how proud he was of them, and how much he loved them, and i know he still is and always will. He will be truly missed and always remembered. Thank you Alan, for everything, you truly saved my life more times than i can count, you were always there for me and i can only that i will be given an oppurtunity to do for some one else what you have so selflessly done for me. I will always miss you and i hope your in a better place. R.I.P. John Alan Potts.

John, Marilyn, Linda & Lisa I am so truly heartbroken by your loss. Alan was a very special young man. I hope that time will somehow ease the pain you all feel right now. Please know how much I care about you all and that I will keep you and Alan's children in my prayers daily. I love you all. Anne

Marilyn,

I am so sorry to hear about your son. I know it is hard for a parent to lose a child at any age. May God bless your family in this time of sorrow.

We miss you at Water Aerobic.

Janet

Marilyn,
I am so sorry to hear about your son,
you and your family are in my prayers.

Camille

Dear Lisa, Linda, John and Marilyn,
I was so sorry to hear about your loss. My prayers and thoughts are with you. They say God only gives us what we can handle, but at times we wonder how we are to carry on. I know God will give all of you the strength and courage to walk this journeyas long as you keep the faith. I did not have the prividge of knowing Alan, but I know he had to be a loving and wonderful person because I have met the rest of his family and there is no one on earth as kind and dear as Lisa. At a time like this FAMILY is what it is all about. I know as a family you all will be there for each other. I will pray for his children, and all of you. Love Jennifer

Lisa,

Although we never had the privilege of knowing your brother John, by knowing you, we fill as though we did. He surely was a kind and loving person. You and your family will be in our prayers. May God Bless you and your family.

2 Pages Of How Dearly I Love Alan and How Much I Miss Him

I may be among Alan’s newest friends having only known him for a little over three years, but me and Alan were very close. We talked every single day sometimes several times a day, any time of the day or night about anything and everything. Sometimes very deep spiritual philosophical stuff, or art, or music, sometimes very personal issues that we knew we could only trust/ be completely honest about with each other about, sometimes just to get the other’s honest opinion about stuff. Or to ask each other for a favor or a ride or a little cash til payday and (we both always said yes whenever at all possible!) Or just to check on each other or ask for company on a drive, or a buffer for awkward scenarios. Or to acclimatize each other up to current with our other friends (ok, maybe that’s gossip! Hehe but only nice things) or about anything exciting or dull or wonderful or terrible that just happened, or to find out the name of a song or movie or to say ‘Guess who I ran into?’ or to finish each other’s sentence or to remind each other to take our vitamins or even to say I’ll call you later. We would talk for hours and both saying ‘bye’ but then each having one more thing to say for the next five hours, or sometimes less than 5 seconds (like ‘Don’t forget! 4:00!)

We always stopped by if we were in the other’s neighborhood (I always have different colored ink ball point pens and other art stuff handy just for Alan) I’m a big fan of his artwork and we had planned to preserve it safely on a disk and frame some prints and copyright it for him. Even if we weren’t at home but both near the same anyplace, we had to have a visit. We could have fun grocery shopping, or staring at reptiles while one of us is getting bit by a ferret in PetSmart!, or taking out the trash, or jumping on the hood of my car to squash out the dents!. We could be standing at a busy place with one of us all dressed up and the other all slobbed out so oddly paired and neither of us would notice. (I could go on X infinity with reasons why I consider Alan my best friend….!)

When I first met Alan I thought he seemed very cool. Then the more I got to know him the more I realized, he really actually is cool. There’s no acting involved, no imitations, no fake personality, no forced-efforts. This guy truly is cool by nature. He defines coolness. The kind of guy you just wanna hang around all the time because he can turn dull into interesting, boredom into an adventure, and always have you laughing out loud until your stomach is sore.

And he always lent me a compassionate ear and a shoulder cry on whether I was having a meltdown-crisis or I just needed a hug or someone to allow me to complain, he never minded a bit, either, just let me unleash and never judged me and always made me feel better. Oh, and on any subject of knowledge that interested him, the dude was a walking encyclopedia/reference book/library/instruction manuel, etc. But only if it interested him.

It didn’t take me long to become closer to him than I’ve ever been with any of my lifelong friends. I’ve come to rely on his active listening and truthful, caring advice and the way he always gave 100% compassion and understanding to a friend. He’s such a huge part of my life I feel like part of me died with him. I’ve become so very attached to him. I really just don’t know how to live in a world without my dear Alan. I was completely unprepared for this. My heart is breaking and I feel sad and there’s a chance I could become rather discombobulated.

I saw big changes happening to Alan in the past few months especially. Good changes. He was letting go of the past hurts that had haunted him and shifted his energy to more important things, like relationships with the ones who really matter. His kids. His Dad and Mom – family. He also expressed to me on numerous occasions that he was seeking a closer, more personal and meaningful relationship with God and how he’s starting to understand why that kind of true peace is so valuable, and how it seemed like God was revealing wisdom to him bit by bit sometimes more when and how it applied to him, and he saw other people having different experiences and God having personal lessons for each of us because we are all different people at different stages.... And he talked about forgiving others and even forgiving himself for some of the bonehead stunts he wishes he could take back and hurt feelings and/or repercussions he’s been powering through that have gotten a lot easier. I had no idea how few of these types of chats we had left. On the first ring I still keep thinking its him and then I remember he won’t be calling me on the phone or walking up my staircase anymore. I can’t pick up the phone and say ‘put it on channel 11!’ or ‘I bet Alan would get a kick out of this, let me get him one’ or ‘I just can’t wait for Alan to see this!’ It’s really going to take some time getting used to.

Here is something that has been comforting for me. Truly this is a series of divine miracles: 1. Alan was doing really well, his folks were real glad about that and they had a lot more peace at home. 2. Alan was making it a priority to have good relationships with his family, and in the process they became much closer where there had been some quarreling, some unspoken words, and hurt feelings for a long time. 3. He also got to spend time with his kids and they got to spend time with him and make such a lovely memory to have and to cherish. He was so happy that he recorded their laughter on his phone and played it for me. I know they were very happy.
I’m so glad they had that time together and that he did all that before he had to go. I know I’ll always cherish last weekend (the weekend before this past weekend). That was the last time we really just took a fun leisurely goof-off day and we hung out with Meredith and Robin, got some Sonic coffee ice shakes Alan's treat then we listened to music and laughed in the car til the Dollar General opened and he got some art supplies and we tried on sunglasses and got gardening supplies. It was a perfect day, like a gift to all of us. Then the next day it was just me and Alan and we had a long deep spiritual conversation about religion and God and love and people and society and Christ. I loved listening to what’s in his heart.
But the thing that brings me the most comfort to know is that Alan didn’t suffer. I thank God for that! Thank you Jesus. Alan left his body gently and peacefully, he just drifted off to sleep and didn’t wake up.

I can still feel his spirit peaking over my shoulder, even several times today and I know he’s smiling because I hear the laugh. Love you Alan. I really wish you would’ve waited for me, but I’ll catch up with you when I finish up here. I’m sure we’ll both have a lot to talk about. Please visit every chance you get. I’ll try not to be too dull!

Very Truly Yours,
Debs Thakur

I spent some of the best years of my life with Alan. Times that will never be forgotten. Good, bad, hard and indifferent Alan was a true friend that no matter what the situation you’d want him by your side. And that’s were you’d most likely find him. We all have our own problems and often Alan was willing to put his own aside and be there to listen to yours. One of the funniest guys I’ve known and fun was had anytime we were together.

My deepest condolences to the Potts family whom I’ve come to know and heart goes out to you at this time of loss. He’s left behind two beautiful and wonderful children and I hope that people close will remind you of what a wonderful father you’ve lost.

RIP John Alan Potts. Son, Brother, Father and Friend. My best friend.

Marilyn and family,

My heart goes out to you all. You will be in my thoughts and prayers. Please let me know if I can help you in anyway.

Lisa, Linda, Marilyn and John,
I am so truly sorry for your loss! How terribly heartbreaking to lose a child! If there is anything that I can do to help you during this most difficult time, please let me know. You're in my prayers daily!
Love to all!
Mary

Marilyn,John,Lisa and Linda,
I was so sorry to hear about the loss of Alan. I remember so many great laughs with him. His spirit and humor will be missed greatly by all who knew him. My thoughts and prayers are with you all through these tough times.

Johnny

I met Alan through a mutual friend who gave me his phone number. For an entire year, Alan got me through some of the toughest times of my life via telephone. When we finally met, he continued to be my friend and my support. Sometimes I think he had more hope for me than I did. He saw my true spirit and helped me find it. He always made me laugh and was always there for me no matter what time of day or night. I loved him dearly and he was one of my closest friends. He will always be in my heart.

My deepest condolences to the Potts family whom I’ve come to know, my heart goes out to you at this time of loss. Alan has left behind two beautiful, wonderful children and I hope that people close to them will remind them of what a wonderful father they have.

I spent some of the best years of my life with Alan. Times that will never be forgotten. Good, bad, hard and indifferent. Alan was a true friend - no matter what the situation you’d want him by your side. And that’s where you’d find him. We all have our own problems and often Alan was willing to put his own aside and be there to listen to yours. He was one of the funniest guys I’ve known and fun was had anytime we were together.

I will always remember Alan as the wittiest person I ever met. He's the only guy I knew that could make fun of someone without offending them and make them find humour in their short comings. I mean after all there's nothing you can do about it right. This, in a nut shell is Alan. So what if you have a big nose, a small head or spindly legs. He'd let you know, make a joke about it and make you accept that fact something’s different and get on with it. It's strange to say it but Alan actually helped peoples self esteem by making fun of them. Now how many people can say that they knew someone like that. I’d like to think that no one ever took Alan’s comments to heart but if they did I think they just couldn't see his comic genius. Alan has always been genuine if nothing else.

Alan we’ll miss you and certainly never forget you . You’ve impacted on our lives and we are better people for knowing you. Or at least a bit more confident.

RIP John Alan Potts - My best friend.

Chris Moore & Family

We are so very sorry to hear about Alan. You all are in our thoughts and prayers. Deepest sympathy, The Rash family and Carol Swift

Lisa and family,

I'm so sorry to hear about Allen. I remember those times you and Todd brought Allen to my house when he was a young man. I remember Allen as a sweet, fun loving young man. I did not have the pleasure of being around Allen as an adult, but I'm sure he was still a great guy. My prayers go out to you Lisa and your family. I'm so sorry that I cannot be there for you. Please call me if there is any thing at all that I can do.

Love your friend,

Jeannie Campbell

The first time we met Alan he was only 14 years old. We had picked up Cati and he was with her. He was a little round-faced red faced 14 year old boy. When he got out of the car Cati kissed him goodbye. And I said “why did you kiss that child” and she said “we are only friends.” They ended up having two beautiful children together. Alan was the funniest person I have ever known. We loved him very much. He made many wrong choices in his life but our love for him only grew. He called us all the time. One morning at about 2:00 a.m., he called us and he talked to Harry and he gave his life to God. Any time he was having problems or having a special relationship with God he would call us and we would talk for hours. Alan had great potential. It is so sad that he did not get to reach that potential, but he certainly touched many people’s hearts and he gave us two of the most wonderful children in the world, Jewels and Jewelianna. Alan woke up in the middle of the night, woke Cati up, and said “let’s name the baby Jewels.” She said “after me?” He said “what do you mean after you?” She said “my middle name is Jewel.” He said “no, after the guy in Pulp Fiction.” This was an answer to my prayers. He heard from God and didn’t even know it. Later in his life he always knew when he was hearing from God. We are so glad that we got to know Alan. Alan never wanted to spend the night away from home. He and Cati would go to spend the night at someone else’s house and Cati would wake up alone, Alan would have gone home. The first time he spent the night away from home was at our house. He spent many, many nights with us after that. The last time I talked with him He was telling me how God was changing him. We are so thankful that he had God in his life. Alan was very, very special to us. We will always love him.
Cheryl , Harry, Jewels and Jewelianna Manley

Its been years since I saw allen but still remember all the great times we all had on camping trips and weekends we all spent together when he was growing up.He was always so happy and silly a personality to no end.My thoughts and prayers are with all of you.

Monte & Thresa Shular

WHEN A ANGEL SMILES

A light shines down
With warmth & grace
An angel appears
A smile on her face.

A light will guide you
She holds your hand
Up to the heavens
Called the promiseland.

Such a place
Never seen before
With love & beauty
And pain no more.

When you get there
You'll notice her face
Be calm - Be patient
and keep your faith.

Someone who loves you
Will be waiting for you
With arms open wide
To guide you threw.

God has sent for you
An angel to be
So that one day you can return
And smile upon me.

Dear Marilyn,

I want you to know that my prayers are with you and your husband as you say good-bye to Alan. You are such good parents and I know he felt your love and support. I pray that you will be comforted by the assurance that Alan loved you too and is grateful for all the ways that you supported him in the tough times. Thank you for your loving and caring ways in all things.

Sincerely,
Lacy

Marilyn and John my heart was very touched at the service last night when all of Alan's close friends spoke of him.
They all spoke of his dear friendship to them,how he listened and cared for them and loved them, wonderful attributes in a person's life. You and John poured yourselves into Alan and spoke very greatly into his life,he has much good fruit left behind. The Lord blessed you with wonderful son to raise well and you did. Much love, Christine

(In reply to Christine's comment) It's true, Alan meant so much to so many people. And you know, the friends who were there last night were just a drop in the bucket compared to the sea of lives he has touched.
I was the last one to leave last night because I couldn't seem to get a moment alone with him. I miss him so much. He is a beautiful soul.

Alan made such an impact in all of our lives. For the short time we spent together (which was every day & night non-stop)we poured out hearts out to each other. It was the first time in a long time I have been able to truly let my guard down and have someone listen to who I really am. He picked me up when I was emotionally falling down during another rough time in my life. He was the first boyfriend I have ever introduced to my entire family. In return I was able to be there for him. We laughed, we cried, we experienced new things together, he helped me grow. It's comforting to know at this day in age you can still meet people and take a chance and find out that they may just change your life. For me, the lesson in this is to value all the relationships in our lives that are special to each and every one of this. Alan is and will always be close to my heart. I love you. I miss you.

I have been praying for you all Family and Friends. I am so sorry that I could not be with you on Wednesday.
The Potts Family were/are my Neighbors and my friends growing up and today. They were some of the first friends that I made twenty-five years ago when I moved to the US. Good people, kind people, real people. Linda is one of my best friends in the world.
I am shocked, as you all are, to think that Alan is no longer with us. It has been years since I have interacted with or even seen Alan. However, Linda always filled me in on how he was doing and what was going on in his life. I know that he had a lot of rough times, but I also know based on reports from his sister that he was trying hard to turn it around. After having read all of the beautiful things that have been written about him on this page, I find it very comforting that he had developed a relationship with GOD before he left us. I have faith that GOD will take good care of him and I hope that will bring comfort to his Family and friends.
I will miss hearing about Alan Potts, may he Rest In Peace
God Bless Marilyn, John, Lisa, Linda,Jewels and Jewelianna and all of the family members and friends that are affected by the loss of this sweet soul. Please fill their hearts with peace.

Alan was my first love. He was my bestfriend forever. He gave me more than anyone else has or ever will.LOVE, Love that over came all. Never looking down on me, but always lifting me up& always incouraging me. He gave the gratest gift a man can give & he gave it to me, his loveing face that will last for eternity. My childerin,grand childerin& greatgrandchilderin,that will carrie his face & carictoristics, threw our childerin Jewels & Jewelianna forever. Love, your familey, your blood. We'll talk about you forever, always keeping you alive & with us. I love you & miss you, My Love, forever.

OUR DEAREST, JOHN ALAN POTTS

Alan, We love you and will miss you for the rest of our lives. Although I didn't spend a lot of time together with each other but Debs used to always keep me updated and at that time I didn't realize how close you were to me. Now that you are gone, I feel the same void I felt when my Mom left me 17 years ago. You had, have and always will be close to me. Debs and I will feel that emptiness for the rest of our lives. I know for sure you are are at a better place and you are in peace (I could see the peaceful smile on your face on 3rd).

Alan, see you there, buddy.

Will miss you, forever.

I remember the days when my Roni and Alan would play together even sometimes getting into a little trouble!
I have those fond memories to look back at to remember Alan. It is truly sad to loose someone so young!

With my deepest and heartfelt sympathy for your loss.

Lisa & family,
I want to express my deepest sympathy to you & your family in the loss of your brother, John. My prayers are with you and may God give you peace and assurance during this difficult time. May you find comfort in knowing that others care and are thinking of you.
Sincerely,
Jay E. Elder

It has taken me awhile to write this, I just couldn't come up with words to justify exactley what Alan meant to me.

I am gonna give it a try though......

Alan was Alan & you can't get any better of a friend than him. He did not have a hateful bone in his whole body. Alan was not one to hold grudges, not one to judge. Alan was a hippie at heart. He introduced me to The Doors & many other great bands.
Alan was one of the funniest people I have ever been graced with. He was true. Alan would never tell you what you wanted to hear... just the truth & then try to help you find a way to fix the problem.
It was never hard to be Alan's friend because he was always there with open arms & a joke. He understood, he knew.
I can still see me & Alan walking to elenentary school together, Alan preparring me for high school. Always with a smile on his face & a joke to make me smile.
Me & Alan on our street corner for hours talking about EVERYTHING. When I became an adult I missed that the most, our long late night, all night talks.
What I am trying to say is that I love John Alan Potts & I wish he was still here. I miss him so much, as so many of you do. But he will never be forgotten. Alan lives in our hearts forever, he would never leave us. That's not Alans style.

I love you Alan & I always will.

Break on through my dear friend.....

Break on through Baby......

I keep looking back here everyday and I just love reading all of the tributes everyone has been writing.
I found some really great pictures of Alan and if you'd like me to send them to you email me at TexasDebs@yahoo.com and in the subject bar write "Photos of Alan" so I can find you in case it goes to my bulk folder. Also, if you have any please email them to me.
The ones I have will really make you smile because - well, Alan was being Alan. He was goofing around and making a cat do a dance and making funny faces.... Oh! I miss him.

Hey, Alan I remember the first time we met it was fist grade we walked home from school and your dad offered us a pink sprinkle doughnut and from than on out i was hooked on them. I remember summer days in our pool and at the neighborhood pool A

I am Linda one of Alan's sisters. I just want to thank you all for your kind and very true words about Alan it means alot.I am so proud of Alan for alot of reasons. He created two beautiful and fun loving kids,the way he has helped so many people through hard times in there lives. He has saved lives. I just so much wish like all of you he could have saved his own. Each day that I can not call or see Alan it gets harder to accept.There will always be a part of me missing, but a part of you will always live in me. I thank god everyday for the time he gave me with you and to be his sister.

Your Loving Sister Forever,
Linda

We were shocked to hear of Alan's passing. We received a phone call about three weeks after the fact. The family is very much in our thoughts and prayers. We have especially remember his grandparents Virginia and George at this time. I remember that his Mom set me up in Alan's bedroom some years ago, hoping the cockroaches would carry me off (Bev) Our sincere condolences to all of you. I'm still in shock, can't imagine how you guys feel.
With all our love,
Bill & Bev

Alan,
I met your kids and they are sooo awesome!!
I met your friend Chris and his wife and their kids, they are such special people.
I'm thinking about you all the time and I miss you everyday and I miss your face and your voice. I often notice your spirit around me and that makes me so happy.

Love Ya 4ever!!
Debs
ps. I still need more pictures to make the dvd for everybody....Maybe you could get some of your angel buddies to rally around?! tehe Luv ya buddy!!

Alan,was my baby brother.I think about him and miss him every day.Alan was one of a kind.He could make anyone laugh and I loved him for that.Life without Alan is not as funny or intertaining.We shared great times together camping and swimming growing up.Sometimes, I treated him more like a mom than his sister.In 15 days Alan would have turned 30,I wish he could have been hear for that mile stone.I LOVE YOU BABY BROTHER REST IN PEACE.

Love,Your Big Sister
Lisa

today has ben one year, we spred some of you ashes yester day in lagrang. we miss u so much. its realy hard on the kids they are far from over it, they love you so much. the anger and the tears i hope will pass soon for the kids,but i cant ecspect the to do any better than me. im still mad at you for leaving. iv ben clean now frome all that crap for 11 months. thankyou for that. i miss you asshole, and every time i see jewels and jewelianna i think of you, how could i help but. i love you always and forever....Cati

Well Bro, the frist year without you. It has been hard. I miss and think of you everyday. I know now in MY HEART that you are truly at peace and in a happier place. Rest well my brother you will forever be in our HEARTS and ALWAYS with us in our everyday lives.

MY LOVE ALWAYS,
LINDA
P.S. ROCK ON TOOL!!!!!!!!!!

Well, Babe, it's been a year since I saw your face or felt your hug for real; but in my mind and spirit you are here with us. I can still see you and feel your presence. Everytime I sit at the computer I see your face smiling down at me from that wonderful drawing that friend did for us. You are and will forever be with us in spirit. Your Jewels and Jewelianna are wonderful kids, but they and Cati need your guidance from above. Be with them. I see a cardinal at the feeder or in our yard almost everyday (sometimes at the most needed times) and I know your spirit is close at hand. All My Love, Mom

Love, Debs

I had been by here a few times at the one year day, but I was too emotional to say something. I just want to put some love up here for my dear sweet Alan, and his family.

Oh Alan how I would love to have another sweet day here on Earth with you to be enlightened by your mental depth, entertained by your goofy yet clever sense of humor,and to feel the safety of your good-hearted and honest words as a counseling friend. I miss you terribly and although I know you're always around I still have fears of losing you and now I'm laughing at myself with you as I say it because you're right here by me telling me how I always worry too much and about the dumbest stuff and how even if I had nothing to worry about I would still find something..
You're too much Alan! I love you so much for even still giving me caring advice from all the way up there. Thanks for the reminder. (And thanks for saying back to me "No problem!") You can still make me laugh. I love you so much.
Now if I could just get a hug from you.. Okey, I guess I gotta wait a little while for that one!! I'll just keep wearing your sweatshirt til then.
I miss you, buddy.
Love,
Debs
ps. I love your kids. I can see why you couldn't stand to be away from them.

Hi Alan!
Thanks for visiting me today, and yes we will put $100.00 in the condolence fund that is set up over here for Jewels and Jeweliana on Tuesday when Navi gets paid.

Tuesday is the big day. Wow! Its so hard to believe it has already been two years since you went home. I miss you terribly and I cant wait to see you again, yet your presence for me here is so vivid and Im so glad about that.

You are special to me always , and I really want to make friends with your kids and Cati.

As you know, I was in the same hospital in November with your mom on the same day when she had her operation, and I even got to see Lisa! That was so special for me. I think it made us both feel better (me and your mom) having that connection of you with us when we were sick and scared. Thanks for setting that up, I guess you must have had to pull some strings up there! I didnt even have to go through Dialisys, and your mom pulled through like the champ that she is!

Navi sends his love, too, and we really want to spend some time with your family again very soon, especially the next time they go to the tree.

I bet your kids are getting so grown up and another school year has started and I know you have to spend most of your energy with them. Just let them know I will always extend to them the same love and friendship unconditionally that I always have for you.

Keep in touch buddy, and let me know when I can hang out with with your family again, I feel like they are part of my family now, too.

Love you forever.
Debs (and Navi!)

ps. I think its so neat that you finally started getting your first tattoo and it was that tree! Haha! And I even have those pictures of it from Stephs phone! We cant wait to go out to the tree.

Can't believe it's been 3 years. Alan had the most irreverent, wicked sense of humor. I loved him for it! His mind was absolutely brilliant. Alan was one of a few people there for me when my father became sick and passed away. He helped to make sense of life's chaos. Dude, I miss you like no other.

Love,

Irene

Hello! It's been 7 years since you left. I still think about you all the time. I wonder about your folks, your sisters, Cati, and the kids and how they are all doing. I miss you. I've been seeing a lot of red birds (cardinals) out here at my dad's farm. +Love you always!

Dear Alan,
Happy Birthday to you and we have been thinking about you.

Love ,

Debs and Navi.